Harley-Davidson makes a tough "BUD LIGHT" decision amid 'woke' outrage

[Bagless K. Sherman]

Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

Outrage against the company erupted in late July after Robby Starbuck, a former Republican candidate for Tennessee's 5th Congressional District in 2022, took to social media platform X to “expose” Harley-Davidson for going “totally woke.”

“@harleydavidson has been one of the most beloved brands in America but recently on CEO Jochen Zeitz’s watch, they’ve gone totally woke,” wrote Starbuck in a tweet on July 23.

He revealed that Harley-Davidson has a “total commitment” to diversity, equity and inclusion, and supports a number of LGBTQ-based policies, events and training for its employees. He also claimed that the company’s CEO, Jochen Zeitz, signed the CEO Action for Diversity & Inclusion Pledge, and that Harley-Davidson is “openly working to have less White suppliers, dealers and employees.”

“I don’t think the values at corporate reflect the values of nearly any Harley Davidson bikers,” said Starbuck in the tweet. “Do Harley riders want the money they spend at Harley to be used later by corporate to push an ideology that’s diametrically opposed to their own values?”

Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

After catching heat over its policies, Harley-Davidson finally responded to the backlash in a statement on X on Aug. 19.

“We are saddened by the negativity on social media over the last few weeks, designed to divide the Harley-Davidson community,” said the company in the statement. “As a Company, we take this issue very seriously, and it is our responsibility to respond with clarity, action and facts.”

The company also refuted allegations that it supports DEI initiatives as it claims that it axed its “DEI function” months ago.

“It is critical to our business that we hire and retain the best talent and that all employees feel welcome,” said Harley-Davidson. “That said, we have not operated a DEI function since April 2024, and we do not have a DEI function today. We do not have hiring quotas and we no longer have supplier diversity spend goals.”

Going forward, Harley-Davidson said that it will ensure that its business resource groups “exclusively focus on professional development, networking, and mentoring.” Sponsorships and affiliations will also be under “review” and will only be approved and managed by the company or its foundation. Employee training will also undergo a major adjustment.

“Training provided will be related to the needs of the business and be absent of socially motivated content - only legally required training has even been mandatory at Harley-Davidson,” said the company in the statement.

Harley-Davidson did not immediately respond to TheStreet’s request for comment.

Companies are starting to shy away from DEI
The move from Harley-Davidson comes after farm supply company John Deere also cut its DEI policies in July after it was exposed by Starbuck for its supposed corporate beliefs. Tractor Supply also made the same decision last month, avoiding a boycott, after outrage erupted over its “woke” policies.

Microsoft even decided to lay off its DEI team last month after it faced controversy over its DEI goals in February.

Many companies have been making cuts to their DEI policies due to fears of facing backlash. According to a recent analysis from Bloomberg, more than two dozen public companies mentioned DEI as a risk factor in their securities filings. They cited that DEI can cause legal and reputation harm if they take on too little or too much action on diversity, especially after the U.S. Supreme Court ended affirmative action in college admissions in June 2023.

https://www.thestreet.com/retail/harley-davidson-decision-dei

[YTC#1]

Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

[Chris Ahlstrom]

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

[pothead]

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine choosing the best candidate for the job instead of following the DEI
playbook.
Gee, what a concept!

[PipL]

Post by pothead
Imagine choosing the best candidate for the job

So why did y'all vote for Trump, then?

[Siri Cruise]

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine choosing the best candidate for the job instead of following the DEI
playbook.
Gee, what a concept!

Imagine renaming EEO/AA.

[Peter Fitzpatrick]

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine choosing the best candidate for the job instead of following the DEI
playbook.
Gee, what a concept!

American voters just did that.

Robby Starbuck helped expose the stink behind Kamala Harris with his
common sense anti-DEI efforts.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

Post by Peter Fitzpatrick

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine choosing the best candidate for the job instead of following the DEI
playbook.
Gee, what a concept!

American voters just did that.

You haven't seen some of Trump's picks, like kid diddler Matt Gaetz?

Post by Peter Fitzpatrick
Robby Starbuck helped expose the stink behind Kamala Harris with his
common sense anti-DEI efforts.

You sniffin' Kamala?

[pothead]

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Peter Fitzpatrick

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine choosing the best candidate for the job instead of following the DEI
playbook.
Gee, what a concept!

American voters just did that.

You haven't seen some of Trump's picks, like kid diddler Matt Gaetz?

Goal post move.

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Peter Fitzpatrick
Robby Starbuck helped expose the stink behind Kamala Harris with his
common sense anti-DEI efforts.

You sniffin' Kamala?

Ewww...
Ask Joe Biden. He's the sniffer in chief.

[Skeeter]

On 11/14/2024 2:25 PM, "pothole," chromosomally male but not the least bit

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Peter Fitzpatrick

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine choosing the best candidate for the job instead of following the DEI
playbook.
Gee, what a concept!

American voters just did that.

You haven't seen some of Trump's picks, like kid diddler Matt Gaetz?

Goal post move.

You don't even know what that expression means, little boy.

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Peter Fitzpatrick
Robby Starbuck helped expose the stink behind Kamala Harris with his
common sense anti-DEI efforts.

You sniffin' Kamala?

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
kid diddler

STFU, Rudence!

You are a rampant public death threat maker and Suckramento dwarf named
Jonathan D Ball.

FOAD, you relentless traitor to America~!

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin/Al Feldhauser
Susan Cohen and a dozen other forged socks of living and dead posters wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Peter Fitzpatrick]

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock. Go woke go broke!

[Chris Ahlstrom]

Post by Peter Fitzpatrick

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock. Go woke go broke!

Sorry, I care more about morals than reaction formation about "woke".

Is Woke in the room with you right now?

Why do you hate other people?

[pothead]

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Peter Fitzpatrick

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock. Go woke go broke!

Sorry, I care more about morals than reaction formation about "woke".
Is Woke in the room with you right now?
Why do you hate other people?

You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole collection of
elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could relate to
what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they can't.

Darn you are one ignorant idiot.

[PipL]

Post by pothead
You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole collection of
elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could relate to
what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they can't.

What are they suffering from, exactly? That hasn't always been the case
except from maybe boom years before industry in the rest of the world
caught up?

[[e-mail]]

Post by PipL

Post by pothead
You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole collection of
elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could relate to
what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they can't.

What are they suffering from, exactly?

Terminal shit-in-mouth disease Pimple ......

[YTC#1]

Post by pothead

Post by PipL

Post by pothead
You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole

collection of

Post by PipL

Post by pothead
elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could relate to
what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they can't.

What are they suffering from, exactly?

  Terminal shit-in-mouth disease Pimple ......

When an inability to answer occurs. Resort to spewing crap.

[PipL]

Post by YTC#1

   Terminal shit-in-mouth disease Pimple ......

When an inability to answer occurs. Resort to spewing crap.

Always a good sign when they do that - they've run out of bile and bullshit.

[[e-mail]]

Post by YTC#1

 >> You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole
collection of
 >> elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could
 >> relate to
 >> what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they
 >> can't.
 >
 > What are they suffering from, exactly?
   Terminal shit-in-mouth disease Pimple ......

When an inability to answer occurs. Resort to spewing crap.

But SOME shit-mouths just aren't WORTH any
more time and effort ! :-)

[YTC#1]

Post by YTC#1

 >> You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole
collection of
 >> elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could
 >> relate to
 >> what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they
 >> can't.
 >
 > What are they suffering from, exactly?
   Terminal shit-in-mouth disease Pimple ......

When an inability to answer occurs. Resort to spewing crap.

  But SOME shit-mouths just aren't WORTH any
  more time and effort !  :-)

Closed minds are failed minds

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Peter Fitzpatrick

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to
extinguish the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its
consumers began focusing on the company’s supposed policies and
beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some
even claimed that they were boycotting the company over its
beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock. Go woke go broke!

Sorry, I care more about morals than reaction formation about "woke".
Is Woke in the room with you right now?
Why do you hate other people?

You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole collection
of elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could
relate to what the middle class, working class are suffering from,
which they can't.

Whereas we can trust Billionaires-At-Birth
oligarchs like Trump and Musk to REALLY understand
what working people go thru. Right.

[YTC#1]

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Peter Fitzpatrick

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock. Go woke go broke!

Sorry, I care more about morals than reaction formation about "woke".
Is Woke in the room with you right now?
Why do you hate other people?

You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole collection of
elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could relate to
what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they can't.

As opposed to parroting an orange billionaire and his rich chums?

[pothead]

Post by YTC#1

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Peter Fitzpatrick

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock. Go woke go broke!

Sorry, I care more about morals than reaction formation about "woke".
Is Woke in the room with you right now?
Why do you hate other people?

You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole collection of
elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could relate to
what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they can't.

As opposed to parroting an orange billionaire and his rich chums?

Trump didn't screw up the country.
Biden/Harris did.

Trump talks of fixing the mess Biden/Harris created.
Biden/Harris keep telling people how great they are doing when it's
clear they are not.
I don't care what billionaires and their friends do as long as it's not
impacting me in a significant way.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by pothead
Trump didn't screw up the country.

Except the millions he killed.

[clams casino]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead
Trump didn't screw up the country.

Except the millions he killed.

He killed no one, you lie like the worthless meth whore you are.

[YTC#1]

Post by pothead

Post by YTC#1

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Peter Fitzpatrick

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock. Go woke go broke!

Sorry, I care more about morals than reaction formation about "woke".
Is Woke in the room with you right now?
Why do you hate other people?

You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole collection of
elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could relate to
what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they can't.

As opposed to parroting an orange billionaire and his rich chums?

Trump didn't screw up the country.
Biden/Harris did.

Nothing to do with who came before them?

Post by pothead
Trump talks of fixing the mess Biden/Harris created.

Compared to other nations, you really really are not in a mess.

Post by pothead
Biden/Harris keep telling people how great they are doing when it's
clear they are not.

Strange, your wages are up, GDP is up. Not sure what you are expecting.

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/07/bidens-numbers-july-2024-update/

But hey, don't let facts stand n the way of a good narrative.

Post by pothead
I don't care what billionaires and their friends do as long as it's not
impacting me in a significant way.

Let us know how that works out then.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by YTC#1

Post by pothead
Biden/Harris keep telling people how great they are doing when it's
clear they are not.

Strange, your wages are up, GDP is up. Not sure what you are
expecting.

Slavery hurt the southern poor, but they supported slavery because
at least black slaves were below them socially.

What they want is when America was great: before civil rights.

[clams casino]

Post by YTC#1

Post by pothead
Biden/Harris keep telling people how great they are doing when it's
clear they are not.

Strange, your wages are up, GDP is up. Not sure what you are expecting.

Slavery hurt the southern poor, but they supported slavery because at
least black slaves were below them socially.

Sounds like the same corporate plantation Biden and his caravans of
illegals are working on today.

What they want is when America was great: before civil rights.

You have ZERO FACTUAL DATA to prove that stunnnigly stupid allegation,
ya cawk-slobbering truck-stop meth whore!

[Blue Lives Matter]

Post by pothead

Post by YTC#1

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Peter Fitzpatrick

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock. Go woke go broke!

Sorry, I care more about morals than reaction formation about "woke".
Is Woke in the room with you right now?
Why do you hate other people?

You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole collection of
elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could relate to
what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they can't.

As opposed to parroting an orange billionaire and his rich chums?

Trump didn't screw up the country.

Yes, Trump thoroughly fucked up the country.

[Champ]

On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:03:38 -0000 (UTC), pothead

Post by pothead
Trump talks of fixing the mess Biden/Harris created.

Can you describe this mess?
Is it in the room with you know?

[Go Bills!]

Post by Champ
On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:03:38 -0000 (UTC), pothead

Post by pothead
Trump talks of fixing the mess Biden/Harris created.

Can you describe this mess?
Is it in the room with you know?

20 million illegal invaders getting free health care, money, food,
phones, social security, while Americans don't. Kick these parasites
out. If they won't leave, shoot them all and make soap.

The Ukraine tax $$$ drain. Cut the money off. We'll never get anything
in return from it. Sic the FBI forensic accountants on the Biden family
and see how much they all got from this scam.

The Israeli parasite tax $$$ drain. Cut the money off. We've never
gotten anything in return from past "donations" and we're not going to
get anything now except more unconstitutional "hate crime" laws.

Black flash mobs robbing every store they can walk into. Half the
merchandise is locked up in stores now because Biden/Harris absolutely
refused to hold this particular ethnic group accountable and social
media enabled them.

Vulnerable school children being encouraged by heterophobic nutjob
"teachers" to "change sex" and lie to their parents about it.

Food, clothing, electricity, gas, natural gas, water prices have all
increased by 20 to 30%.

Is that enough or you want more?

[Ben Blaney]

Post by Go Bills!
20 million illegal invaders getting free health care, money, food,
phones, social security, while Americans don't.

Can you cite a reliable source explaining how illegal immigrants get social
security payments?

[YTC#1]

Post by Ben Blaney

Post by Go Bills!
20 million illegal invaders getting free health care, money, food,
phones, social security, while Americans don't.

Can you cite a reliable source explaining how illegal immigrants get social
security payments?

We get the same shit over here.

People decide it is happening and won't here otherwise.

[YTC#1]

Post by Go Bills!

Post by Champ
On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:03:38 -0000 (UTC), pothead

Post by pothead
Trump talks of fixing the mess Biden/Harris created.

Can you describe this mess?
Is it in the room with you know?

20 million illegal invaders getting free health care, money, food,

What to the legal invaders get?

Post by Go Bills!
phones, social security, while Americans don't.  Kick these parasites
out.  If they won't leave, shoot them all and make soap.

Just remember, one day, this could be you and yours.

Post by Go Bills!
The Ukraine tax $$$ drain.  Cut the money off.  We'll never get anything

How about the feeling that you have done the right thing, and that
if/when the tables are turned, someone does it for you.

Post by Go Bills!
in return from it.  Sic the FBI forensic accountants on the Biden family
and see how much they all got from this scam.

There will alwasy be someone skimming off the top, no matter who is in
charge. Trump and his family seem to be exceptional at this.

Post by Go Bills!
The Israeli parasite tax $$$ drain.  Cut the money off.  We've never
gotten anything in return from past "donations" and we're not going to

See above (Ukraine)

Post by Go Bills!
get anything now except more unconstitutional "hate crime" laws.

If you don't want a hate crime law, don't hate.

Post by Go Bills!
Black flash mobs robbing every store they can walk into.  Half the

I'm sure white ones do it as well.

Post by Go Bills!
merchandise is locked up in stores now because Biden/Harris absolutely
refused to hold this particular ethnic group accountable and social
media enabled them.

And how do you hold an entire ethnic group accountable for the actions
of a minority?

Post by Go Bills!
Vulnerable school children being encouraged by heterophobic nutjob
"teachers" to "change sex" and lie to their parents about it.

Or how about people spouting bollocks (like the above) and frothing at
the mouth about something that is not happening.

Post by Go Bills!
Food, clothing, electricity, gas, natural gas, water prices have all
increased by 20 to 30%.

1) Inflation is a thing (always)
2) It has been a world wide issue
3) Fuck me, that's low.

[Club Foote]

Post by YTC#1

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson  (HOG)  is attempting to
extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began
focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock.  Go woke go broke!

Sorry, I care more about morals than reaction formation about "woke".
Is Woke in the room with you right now?
Why do you hate other people?

You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole collection of
elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could relate to
what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they can't.

As opposed to parroting an orange billionaire and his rich chums?

Let's see, Trump advocates everyone working and making money. I'm good
with that. My investments did well with Trump in office.

You'd prefer a stupid whore and her cadre of child gender butchers?

Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal, while
confusing little boys and encouraging gay-leaning perverts to try and
make girls out of them. Mental illness should not be encouraged and the
incurable mentally sick put down.

[PipL]

Post by YTC#1

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson  (HOG)  is attempting to
extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began
focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock.  Go woke go broke!

Sorry, I care more about morals than reaction formation about "woke".
Is Woke in the room with you right now?
Why do you hate other people?

You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole collection of
elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could relate to
what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they can't.

As opposed to parroting an orange billionaire and his rich chums?

Let's see, Trump advocates everyone working and making money.  I'm good
with that.  My investments did well with Trump in office.

So he says. Trump says a lot, not all of it intelligible.

You'd prefer a stupid whore and her cadre of child gender butchers?

Proof of stupidity? Proof of professional sex work? Proof of butchery?

Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal,

What speeches has she made to this exact effect?

Actually, don't bother. Your kind wearys me.


Pip

[pothead]

Post by PipL

Post by YTC#1

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson  (HOG)  is attempting to
extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began
focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some
even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock.  Go woke go broke!

Sorry, I care more about morals than reaction formation about "woke".
Is Woke in the room with you right now?
Why do you hate other people?

You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole collection of
elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could relate to
what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they can't.

As opposed to parroting an orange billionaire and his rich chums?

Let's see, Trump advocates everyone working and making money.  I'm good
with that.  My investments did well with Trump in office.

So he says. Trump says a lot, not all of it intelligible.

You'd prefer a stupid whore and her cadre of child gender butchers?

Proof of stupidity? Proof of professional sex work? Proof of butchery?

Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal,

What speeches has she made to this exact effect?
Actually, don't bother. Your kind wearys me.
Pip

Favortism for blacks proposed by Harris:
<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/smacks-blatant-vote-buying-legal-experts-call-harris-proposals-black-men-unconstitutional>

[Siri Cruise]

Post by pothead

Post by PipL

Post by Club Foote
Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal,

What speeches has she made to this exact effect?
Actually, don't bother. Your kind wearys me.
Pip

<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/smacks-blatant-vote-buying-legal-experts-call-harris-proposals-black-men-unconstitutional>

Nothing there about taking jobs from anyone. Just about minority
business loans.

<https://www.sba.gov/business-guide/grow-your-business/minority-owned-businesses>

[pothead]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead

Post by PipL

Post by Club Foote
Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal,

What speeches has she made to this exact effect?
Actually, don't bother. Your kind wearys me.
Pip

<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/smacks-blatant-vote-buying-legal-experts-call-harris-proposals-black-men-unconstitutional>

Nothing there about taking jobs from anyone. Just about minority
business loans.
<https://www.sba.gov/business-guide/grow-your-business/minority-owned-businesses>

True but it shows the obvious bias against white men.
As for jobs, the illegals are the ones taking jobs from the blacks,
And as a DEI supporter that Harris is, that alone shows where her strategy is.

[PipL]

Post by pothead

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead

Post by PipL

Post by Club Foote
Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal,

What speeches has she made to this exact effect?
Actually, don't bother. Your kind wearys me.
Pip

<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/smacks-blatant-vote-buying-legal-experts-call-harris-proposals-black-men-unconstitutional>

Nothing there about taking jobs from anyone. Just about minority
business loans.
<https://www.sba.gov/business-guide/grow-your-business/minority-owned-businesses>

True but it shows the obvious bias against white men.
As for jobs, the illegals are the ones taking jobs from the blacks,

...or really poor people are taking lowest paid jobs from other, less
poor people, if we leave colour prejudice out of the equation. Are there
no poor whites in the US?

[Siri Cruise]

Post by pothead

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead

Post by PipL

Post by Club Foote
Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal,

What speeches has she made to this exact effect?
Actually, don't bother. Your kind wearys me.
Pip

<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/smacks-blatant-vote-buying-legal-experts-call-harris-proposals-black-men-unconstitutional>

Nothing there about taking jobs from anyone. Just about minority
business loans.
<https://www.sba.gov/business-guide/grow-your-business/minority-owned-businesses>

True but it shows the obvious bias against white men.

And this predates Biden. And Obama. And only now your ears perk
up? Whether it is a good idea, it is not a new idea.

Post by pothead
As for jobs, the illegals are the ones taking jobs from the blacks,
And as a DEI supporter that Harris is, that alone shows where her strategy is.

And people not allowed to work are still not allowed to work. But
no matter how you bellow, deciding a person is not allowed to work
can be costly and time consuming. And will remain so without
repealing parts of the Bill of Rights. Again this is not new.

[pothead]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead

Post by PipL

Post by Club Foote
Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal,

What speeches has she made to this exact effect?
Actually, don't bother. Your kind wearys me.
Pip

<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/smacks-blatant-vote-buying-legal-experts-call-harris-proposals-black-men-unconstitutional>

Nothing there about taking jobs from anyone. Just about minority
business loans.
<https://www.sba.gov/business-guide/grow-your-business/minority-owned-businesses>

True but it shows the obvious bias against white men.

And this predates Biden. And Obama. And only now your ears perk
up? Whether it is a good idea, it is not a new idea.

Post by pothead
As for jobs, the illegals are the ones taking jobs from the blacks,
And as a DEI supporter that Harris is, that alone shows where her strategy is.

And people not allowed to work are still not allowed to work. But
no matter how you bellow, deciding a person is not allowed to work
can be costly and time consuming. And will remain so without
repealing parts of the Bill of Rights. Again this is not new.

Enter the USA legally and you are free to work and earn the American dream anytime
you want to.
Legal migrants have been doing it for centuries.
Enter the country illegally and you should be sent back from where you came from.
It's very simple.

[YTC#1]

Post by pothead

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead

Post by PipL

Post by Club Foote
Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal,

What speeches has she made to this exact effect?
Actually, don't bother. Your kind wearys me.
Pip

<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/smacks-blatant-vote-buying-legal-experts-call-harris-proposals-black-men-unconstitutional>

Nothing there about taking jobs from anyone. Just about minority
business loans.
<https://www.sba.gov/business-guide/grow-your-business/minority-owned-businesses>

True but it shows the obvious bias against white men.

And this predates Biden. And Obama. And only now your ears perk
up? Whether it is a good idea, it is not a new idea.

Post by pothead
As for jobs, the illegals are the ones taking jobs from the blacks,
And as a DEI supporter that Harris is, that alone shows where her strategy is.

And people not allowed to work are still not allowed to work. But
no matter how you bellow, deciding a person is not allowed to work
can be costly and time consuming. And will remain so without
repealing parts of the Bill of Rights. Again this is not new.

Enter the USA legally and you are free to work and earn the American dream anytime
you want to.

Stop selling the dream, and maybe deal with reality?

Post by pothead
Legal migrants have been doing it for centuries.

<checks>
Ah, yes. Since Jamestown in 1602. ... oh, no hang on, the Native
Americas didn't issue them with visas.
</c>

Post by pothead
Enter the country illegally and you should be sent back from where you came from.
It's very simple.

<checks>
Right, so that is the entire non-indigenous population then.
Don't be coming over here without a visa when they deport you.
</c>

[J Carlson]

Post by pothead

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead

Post by PipL

Post by Club Foote
Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal,

What speeches has she made to this exact effect?
Actually, don't bother. Your kind wearys me.
Pip

<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/smacks-blatant-vote-buying-legal-experts-call-harris-proposals-black-men-unconstitutional>

Nothing there about taking jobs from anyone. Just about minority
business loans.
<https://www.sba.gov/business-guide/grow-your-business/minority-owned-businesses>

True but it shows the obvious bias against white men.

Bullshit.

[curry]

Post by J Carlson

Post by pothead

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by pothead

Post by PipL

Post by Club Foote
Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal,

What speeches has she made to this exact effect?
Actually, don't bother. Your kind wearys me.
Pip

<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/smacks-blatant-vote-buying-legal-experts-call-harris-proposals-black-men-unconstitutional>

Nothing there about taking jobs from anyone. Just about minority
business loans.
<https://www.sba.gov/business-guide/grow-your-business/minority-owned-businesses>

True but it shows the obvious bias against white men.

Bullshit.

It's biased against whites and started with Obama. Even AOC knows that.

[Champ]

Post by curry

Post by J Carlson

Post by pothead
True but it shows the obvious bias against white men.

Bullshit.

It's biased against whites and started with Obama. Even AOC knows that.

You cunts don't even pretend not to be racist, do you

[Go Bills!]

Post by Champ

Post by curry

Post by J Carlson

Post by pothead
True but it shows the obvious bias against white men.

Bullshit.

It's biased against whites and started with Obama. Even AOC knows that.

You cunts don't even pretend not to be racist, do you

Obama's black racist DOJ.

"The head of DOJ, Eric Holder, has testified to his discrimination
against whites. He testified that a hate crimes law does NOT protect
whites." He got upset when citizens objected to black panther voter
intimidation.

So define racist for us.

[YTC#1]

Post by Go Bills!

Post by Champ

Post by J Carlson

Post by pothead
True but it shows the obvious bias against white men.

Bullshit.

It's biased against whites and started with Obama.  Even AOC knows that.

You cunts don't even pretend not to be racist, do you

Obama's black racist DOJ.
"The head of DOJ, Eric Holder, has testified to his discrimination
against whites. He testified that a hate crimes law does NOT protect
whites."  He got upset when citizens objected to black panther voter
intimidation.

I can't find that quote, bit can see how some would construe his actions
and words that way.

He does seem to imply that those that object have no understanding of
what the black Americans went through and that there is no equivalency.

He was also a biy of a disrupt-er by the looks of things, MAGA should
like him.

Post by Go Bills!
So define racist for us.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/racist

"someone who believes that their race makes them better, more
intelligent, more moral, etc. than people of other races and who does or
says unfair or harmful things as a result"

"coming from or having the belief that people who belong to other races
are not as good, intelligent, moral, etc. as people who belong to your
own race"

"relating to policies, behaviours, rules, etc. that result in a
continued unfair advantage to some people and unfair or harmful
treatment of others based on race "

[Mike Fleming]

Post by Go Bills!
So define racist for us.

Got a mirror?

[PipL]

Post by pothead
<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/smacks-blatant-vote-buying-legal-experts-call-harris-proposals-black-men-unconstitutional>

Looks like there are genuine legal hurdles, but you're assuming a
zero-sum economic system, i.e giving to one automatically takes from
another.

[pothead]

Post by PipL

Post by pothead
<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/smacks-blatant-vote-buying-legal-experts-call-harris-proposals-black-men-unconstitutional>

Looks like there are genuine legal hurdles, but you're assuming a
zero-sum economic system, i.e giving to one automatically takes from
another.

Not really.
It's the big picture that counts not the direct comparisons.

For example I live in a resort town, lot's of movie stars and movers and shakers come here
during the summer months especially.
The hospitality field is almost exclusively migrants.
Other than the occasional drunk driving incident, they work hard and cause no problems.
They would be run out of town if they did.
We had a minor problem with MS-13 infiltrating the area and Trump came in an vowed to eliminate
the problem and he did.
They abandoned my area and moved elsewhere.

My hairdresser is a migrant from South America.
She had been working for another shop and get this, during COVID, she left and
opened her own shop.
People told her she was crazy but she did it and has clients, including me, lined up out the
door.
She is a DACA person and a prime example of why DACA people who have done well and
stayed out of trouble should be at the top of the list for a path to citizenship.

Anyway, as a group, blacks tend to occupy lower skilled jobs but still need to feed
their family and survive.
The illegal migrants are occupying those jobs because their overhead is much lower and thus
they can work for less.
Living 20+ in one house is a classic example.

Since my grandparents were migrants from Western Europe I am obvious in favor of migration however
it has to be legal and dully vetted.

[Champ]

Post by PipL

Post by pothead
<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/smacks-blatant-vote-buying-legal-experts-call-harris-proposals-black-men-unconstitutional>

Looks like there are genuine legal hurdles, but you're assuming a
zero-sum economic system, i.e giving to one automatically takes from
another.

That's the entire Trump world view. Everything is transactional. For
someone to win, someone else must lose. There's no understanding that
working together can generate benefits for all.

Still, his retreat into protectionism will hopefully teach him, and
the MAGA idiots some bits of economics 101

[J Carlson]

Post by pothead

Post by PipL

Post by YTC#1

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson  (HOG)  is attempting to
extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began
focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some
even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock.  Go woke go broke!

Sorry, I care more about morals than reaction formation about "woke".
Is Woke in the room with you right now?
Why do you hate other people?

You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole collection of
elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could relate to
what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they can't.

As opposed to parroting an orange billionaire and his rich chums?

Let's see, Trump advocates everyone working and making money.  I'm good
with that.  My investments did well with Trump in office.

So he says. Trump says a lot, not all of it intelligible.

You'd prefer a stupid whore and her cadre of child gender butchers?

Proof of stupidity? Proof of professional sex work? Proof of butchery?

Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal,

What speeches has she made to this exact effect?
Actually, don't bother. Your kind wearys me.
Pip

The election is over and Harris lost. Move along.

Post by pothead
<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/

No. Just no. Fox has zero credibility.

[curry]

Post by J Carlson

Post by pothead

Post by PipL

Post by YTC#1

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson  (HOG)  is attempting to
extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began
focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some
even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock.  Go woke go broke!

Sorry, I care more about morals than reaction formation about "woke".
Is Woke in the room with you right now?
Why do you hate other people?

You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole collection of
elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could relate to
what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they can't.

As opposed to parroting an orange billionaire and his rich chums?

Let's see, Trump advocates everyone working and making money.  I'm good
with that.  My investments did well with Trump in office.

So he says. Trump says a lot, not all of it intelligible.

You'd prefer a stupid whore and her cadre of child gender butchers?

Proof of stupidity? Proof of professional sex work? Proof of butchery?

Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal,

What speeches has she made to this exact effect?
Actually, don't bother. Your kind wearys me.
Pip

The election is over and Harris lost. Move along.

Boy did she. Trump really kicked her ass back into the stone ages.

Post by J Carlson

Post by pothead
<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/

No. Just no. Fox has zero credibility.

They were the first to call the election for Trump.

[YTC#1]

Post by YTC#1

Post by pothead

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson  (HOG)  is attempting to
extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began
focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock.  Go woke go broke!

Sorry, I care more about morals than reaction formation about "woke".
Is Woke in the room with you right now?
Why do you hate other people?

You are parroting Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Oprah and a whole collection of
elite people who don't give 2 shits about you even if they could relate to
what the middle class, working class are suffering from, which they can't.

As opposed to parroting an orange billionaire and his rich chums?

Let's see, Trump advocates everyone working and making money.  I'm good
with that.  My investments did well with Trump in office.
You'd prefer a stupid whore and her cadre of child gender butchers?

And this is where you let your real persona appear. No logic, just
bitter bile and hatred. Which conspiracy theory is your most popular?

Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal, while
confusing little boys and encouraging gay-leaning perverts to try and
make girls out of them.  Mental illness should not be encouraged and the
incurable mentally sick put down.

With people like you believing such nonsense, I worry for your nation.

Not one word of that paragraph has any grounding in fact.

[Champ]

Post by Club Foote
Let's see, Trump advocates everyone working and making money. I'm good
with that. My investments did well with Trump in office.
You'd prefer a stupid whore and her cadre of child gender butchers?
Harris advocates taking your job then giving it to an illegal, while
confusing little boys and encouraging gay-leaning perverts to try and
make girls out of them. Mental illness should not be encouraged and the
incurable mentally sick put down.

Fuck me

I've occassionally glimpsed through my fingers at the horror that is
american right-wing politics over the last 12 months, and concluded
that the place was probably terminally fucked. But to read actual
words typed by an actual human being who believes the complete
nonsense promoted by the MAGA cabal is a real eye-opener. I been told
that you people existed, but I'd not seen one in the wild before.

Oh well. All empires come to an end. I guess this is the beginning
of the end of the US one

[Simon Wilson]

I been told that you people existed, but I'd not seen one in the wild before.

It does come as a bit of a shock doesn't it? I've met a few, and as
others have said, facts are just useless. It really is super depressing.

One guy, a Brit who now lives in the US and who I used to manage in a
work environment said "well at least he does what he says he is going to
do" (build a wall, drain the swamp etc.). And yet I don't think any of
that happened. And yet people can't see it.

[Mike Fleming]

Post by Champ
Oh well. All empires come to an end. I guess this is the beginning
of the end of the US one

The beginning of the end was the first Bush. They're well on their way
to a pile of smoking rubble now.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

Post by Mike Fleming

Post by Champ
Oh well. All empires come to an end. I guess this is the beginning
of the end of the US one

The beginning of the end was the first Bush.

Actually even earlier, when the Reagan team:

- Sabotaged the Iran American-hostage negotiations in order to
cripple Jimmy Carter's election prospects (similar to how
Trump ordered his sycophants to ditch the immigration-reform deal they
had reached).
- Vetoed the Fairness Doctrine.
- Secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran to illegally
fund the Contras in Nicaragua.
- Lowered the tax rate from 73% to 28% on incomes over about $30k.
- Rigged low-income housing bids to favor his Republican donors.
- Did not respond to the AIDS crisis.
- Union busting.

But at least he was affable :-D

Post by Mike Fleming
They're well on their way to a pile of smoking rubble now.

If you come visit here next year, welcome to New Hungary.

[pothead]

Post by Mike Fleming

Post by Champ
Oh well. All empires come to an end. I guess this is the beginning
of the end of the US one

The beginning of the end was the first Bush. They're well on their way
to a pile of smoking rubble now.

The Bushes, both of them were horrible presidents.

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by pothead

Post by Mike Fleming

Post by Champ
Oh well. All empires come to an end. I guess this is the beginning
of the end of the US one

The beginning of the end was the first Bush. They're well on their way
to a pile of smoking rubble now.

The Bushes, both of them were horrible presidents.

But you voted for both of them, no?

[pothead]

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by pothead

Post by Mike Fleming

Post by Champ
Oh well. All empires come to an end. I guess this is the beginning
of the end of the US one

The beginning of the end was the first Bush. They're well on their way
to a pile of smoking rubble now.

The Bushes, both of them were horrible presidents.

But you voted for both of them, no?

I did because in their respective races they were the least worst choice.

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by pothead

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by pothead

Post by Mike Fleming

Post by Champ
Oh well. All empires come to an end. I guess this is the
beginning of the end of the US one

The beginning of the end was the first Bush. They're well on their
way to a pile of smoking rubble now.

The Bushes, both of them were horrible presidents.

But you voted for both of them, no?

I did because in their respective races they were the least worst choice.

You think Gore would have started
the pointless and expensive invasions
of Iraq and Afghanistan? He is a Vietnam
vet, he (unlike Bush) knows what war is.
Ditto for Kerry who still carries Viet
Cong shrapnel in is body.

[pothead]

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by pothead

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by pothead

Post by Mike Fleming

Post by Champ
Oh well. All empires come to an end. I guess this is the
beginning of the end of the US one

The beginning of the end was the first Bush. They're well on their
way to a pile of smoking rubble now.

The Bushes, both of them were horrible presidents.

But you voted for both of them, no?

I did because in their respective races they were the least worst choice.

You think Gore would have started
the pointless and expensive invasions
of Iraq and Afghanistan? He is a Vietnam
vet, he (unlike Bush) knows what war is.
Ditto for Kerry who still carries Viet
Cong shrapnel in is body.

Al Gore is a complete fool.
His so called climate change agenda is proof positive of that.
Like Biden, has he ever been correct?
<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/al-gore-history-climate-predictions-statements-proven-false>

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by pothead

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by pothead

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by pothead

Post by Mike Fleming

Post by Champ
Oh well. All empires come to an end. I guess this is the
beginning of the end of the US one

The beginning of the end was the first Bush. They're well on
their way to a pile of smoking rubble now.

The Bushes, both of them were horrible presidents.

But you voted for both of them, no?

I did because in their respective races they were the least worst choice.

You think Gore would have started
the pointless and expensive invasions
of Iraq and Afghanistan? He is a Vietnam
vet, he (unlike Bush) knows what war is.
Ditto for Kerry who still carries Viet
Cong shrapnel in is body.

Al Gore is a complete fool.

Gore served in Vietnam.

Post by pothead
His so called climate change agenda is proof positive of that.

Gore was right. Glaciers ARE melting,
Greenland IS thawing out, even the military
knows climate change is real.




Trump's defense chief cites climate
change as national security challenge
14 MAR 2017
https://tinyurl.com/569epfpc



Pentagon Warns of Dire Risk to Bases, Troops From
Climate Change
January 18, 2019
https://tinyurl.com/rl4x3nx




New Pentagon Report: "The effects of a changing
climate are a national security issue"
JAn 18, 2019
https://tinyurl.com/y753qswr




Sea Level Rise Damaging More U.S. Bases,
Former Top Military Brass Warn
FEB 26, 2018
https://tinyurl.com/zrcfppb


Pentagon is still preparing for global
warming even though Trump said to stop
Sep 12, 2017
http://tinyurl.com/4z4txh27

Post by pothead
Like Biden, has he ever been correct?
<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/al-gore-history-climate-predictions-s
tatements-proven-false>

[petrolcan]

Post by Champ
Oh well. All empires come to an end. I guess this is the beginning
of the end of the US one

Time for a rewatch of
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

[Siri Cruise]

Post by petrolcan

Post by Champ
Oh well. All empires come to an end. I guess this is the beginning
of the end of the US one

Time for a rewatch of
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

California has agriculture inspection stations (sort of
mini-customs) on the borders. We are going to add IQ tests.

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Why do you hate other people?
--

STFU, Rudence!

You are a rampant public death threat maker and Suckramento dwarf named
Jonathan D Ball.

FOAD, you relentless traitor to America~!

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin/Al Feldhauser
Susan Cohen and a dozen other forged socks of living and dead posters wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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Post by Chris Ahlstrom
No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Siri Cruise]

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson  (HOG)  is attempting
to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Imagine owning the Disney of motorcycles stock.  Go woke go broke!

Imagine researching a company before buying stock.

[Lee]

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Every right-thinking person is against the cult of DEI. It's a noxious religious
cult.

First, diversity is not "our strength"; it's a societal burden to be surmounted.
As Robert Putnam conclusively showed, the more diversity there is in a
community, the less trust there is, both across and *within* identity groups;
the less trust in public institutions; the less voter participation; the less
general civic participation; the less volunteerism. Do you want to know why
there is so much broader and deeper public support for welfare and other public
assistance programs in the Scandinavian countries? It's because they are *not*
very diverse. People in the general public are more willing to support such
programs because they know the support is going to people who look like and talk
like and share cultural values with them.

"Equity," as the DEI cultists use the word, means total equality of outcome.
That is not a desirable social goal.

Inclusion is the only one I can support, particularly in employment. A company
may be doing a stellar job of ensuring that there is no discrimination in
hiring, and that everyone hired has an equal opportunity for advancement, but if
people they hire from historically marginalized groups are not made to feel
welcome, that's a bad thing. Business firms ought to be incentivized to
undertake inclusiveness initiatives.

[Prudential]

Every right-thinking person is against the cult of tRump.

Fixed.

[Lee]

Post by Prudential

Every right-thinking person is against the cult of tRump.

Fixed.

No, you unethically edited, although what you changed it to read is a true
statement. But my original statement:

Every right-thinking person is against the cult of DEI. It's a noxious
religious cult.

also is true.

[petrolcan]

Post by Lee

Post by Chris Ahlstrom

Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of ?woke? backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company?s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck?s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Every right-thinking person is against the cult of DEI. It's a noxious religious
cult.

I thought trumpers supported DEI (1)

(1) Didn't Earn It

[sticks]

Post by petrolcan

Post by Lee
Every right-thinking person is against the cult of DEI. It's a noxious religious
cult.

I thought trumpers supported DEI (1)
(1) Didn't Earn It

The DEI we support is Deport Every Illegal

[petrolcan]

In article <vhgp37$18qe4$***@dont-email.me>, wolverine01
@charter.net says...

Post by sticks

Post by petrolcan

Post by Lee
Every right-thinking person is against the cult of DEI. It's a noxious religious
cult.

I thought trumpers supported DEI (1)
(1) Didn't Earn It

The DEI we support is Deport Every Illegal

Oh,another fuckwit.

[Bleeds Red]

They're all disgraceful faggots riding sluggish shitboxes that aren't worth
1/10th of what they cost.

[sticks]

Post by petrolcan
@charter.net says...

Post by sticks

Post by petrolcan

Post by Lee
Every right-thinking person is against the cult of DEI. It's a noxious religious
cult.

I thought trumpers supported DEI (1)
(1) Didn't Earn It

The DEI we support is Deport Every Illegal

Oh,another fuckwit.

IRL you're losing. Too Bad.

[Mike Fleming]

Post by petrolcan
@charter.net says...

Post by sticks

Post by petrolcan

Post by Lee
Every right-thinking person is against the cult of DEI. It's a noxious religious
cult.

I thought trumpers supported DEI (1)
(1) Didn't Earn It

The DEI we support is Deport Every Illegal

Oh,another fuckwit.

The Trumptards are everywhere.

[Scout]

Post by petrolcan
@charter.net says...

Post by sticks

Post by petrolcan

Post by Lee
Every right-thinking person is against the cult of DEI. It's a noxious religious
cult.

I thought trumpers supported DEI (1)
(1) Didn't Earn It

The DEI we support is Deport Every Illegal

Oh,another fuckwit.

Yes, you are.

[YTC#1]

Post by Scout

Post by petrolcan
@charter.net says...

Post by petrolcan

Post by Lee
Every right-thinking person is against the cult of DEI. It's a

noxious >> religious

Post by petrolcan

Post by Lee
cult.

I thought trumpers supported DEI (1)
(1) Didn't Earn It

The DEI we support is Deport Every Illegal

Oh,another fuckwit.

Yes, you are.

Looks like school has finished for the day

[sticks]

Post by YTC#1

Post by Scout

Post by petrolcan

Post by sticks
The DEI we support is Deport Every Illegal

Oh,another fuckwit.

Yes, you are.

Looks like school has finished for the day

Good, go out and play ya dipshit. We got work to do here!

[YTC#1]

Post by YTC#1

Post by Scout

Post by petrolcan

Post by sticks
The DEI we support is Deport Every Illegal

Oh,another fuckwit.

Yes, you are.

Looks like school has finished for the day

Good, go out and play ya dipshit.  We got work to do here!

I often forget how poor the education is over there.
You'd best get on with that homework.

[sticks]

Post by YTC#1

Post by YTC#1

Post by Scout

Post by petrolcan

Post by sticks
The DEI we support is Deport Every Illegal

Oh,another fuckwit.

Yes, you are.

Looks like school has finished for the day

Good, go out and play ya dipshit.  We got work to do here!

I often forget how poor the education is over there.
You'd best get on with that homework.

It appears you also forget that few exist anymore who actually give two
shits what some stupid fucking knicker wearin' Brit thinks about
anything. Fuck off you little willy

[YTC#1]

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Post by sticks
The DEI we support is Deport Every Illegal

Oh,another fuckwit.

Yes, you are.

Looks like school has finished for the day

Good, go out and play ya dipshit.  We got work to do here!

I often forget how poor the education is over there.
You'd best get on with that homework.

It appears you also forget that few exist anymore who actually give two
shits what some stupid fucking knicker wearin' Brit thinks about
anything.  Fuck off you little willy

I must have over estimated your age. Obviously kindergarten.

[J Carlson]

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Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of ?woke? backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company?s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck?s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Every right-thinking person is against the cult of DEI. It's a noxious religious
cult.

I thought trumpers supported DEI (1)
(1) Didn't Earn It

Good one!

[Scout]

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Post by YTC#1

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish
the fire of ?woke? backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on
the company?s supposed policies and beliefs.

<snip>

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck?s findings, and some even claimed
that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.

Shit, I may have to buy a Harley now!

Imagine being against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Every right-thinking person is against the cult of DEI. It's a noxious religious
cult.

I thought trumpers supported DEI (1)
(1) Didn't Earn It

Wouldn't that be everyone on welfare????

I mean you do support welfare right?

Does that make you a Trumper?

[[e-mail]]

Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to extinguish the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers began focusing on the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.
Outrage against the company erupted in late July after Robby Starbuck, a former Republican candidate for Tennessee's 5th Congressional District in 2022, took to social media platform X to “expose” Harley-Davidson for going “totally woke.”
He revealed that Harley-Davidson has a “total commitment” to diversity, equity and inclusion, and supports a number of LGBTQ-based policies, events and training for its employees. He also claimed that the company’s CEO, Jochen Zeitz, signed the CEO Action for Diversity & Inclusion Pledge, and that Harley-Davidson is “openly working to have less White suppliers, dealers and employees.”
“I don’t think the values at corporate reflect the values of nearly any Harley Davidson bikers,” said Starbuck in the tweet. “Do Harley riders want the money they spend at Harley to be used later by corporate to push an ideology that’s diametrically opposed to their own values?”
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even claimed that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.
After catching heat over its policies, Harley-Davidson finally responded to the backlash in a statement on X on Aug. 19.
“We are saddened by the negativity on social media over the last few weeks, designed to divide the Harley-Davidson community,” said the company in the statement. “As a Company, we take this issue very seriously, and it is our responsibility to respond with clarity, action and facts.”
The company also refuted allegations that it supports DEI initiatives as it claims that it axed its “DEI function” months ago.
“It is critical to our business that we hire and retain the best talent and that all employees feel welcome,” said Harley-Davidson. “That said, we have not operated a DEI function since April 2024, and we do not have a DEI function today. We do not have hiring quotas and we no longer have supplier diversity spend goals.”
Going forward, Harley-Davidson said that it will ensure that its business resource groups “exclusively focus on professional development, networking, and mentoring.” Sponsorships and affiliations will also be under “review” and will only be approved and managed by the company or its foundation. Employee training will also undergo a major adjustment.
“Training provided will be related to the needs of the business and be absent of socially motivated content - only legally required training has even been mandatory at Harley-Davidson,” said the company in the statement.
Harley-Davidson did not immediately respond to TheStreet’s request for comment.
Companies are starting to shy away from DEI
The move from Harley-Davidson comes after farm supply company John Deere also cut its DEI policies in July after it was exposed by Starbuck for its supposed corporate beliefs. Tractor Supply also made the same decision last month, avoiding a boycott, after outrage erupted over its “woke” policies.
Microsoft even decided to lay off its DEI team last month after it faced controversy over its DEI goals in February.
Many companies have been making cuts to their DEI policies due to fears of facing backlash. According to a recent analysis from Bloomberg, more than two dozen public companies mentioned DEI as a risk factor in their securities filings. They cited that DEI can cause legal and reputation harm if they take on too little or too much action on diversity, especially after the U.S. Supreme Court ended affirmative action in college admissions in June 2023.
https://www.thestreet.com/retail/harley-davidson-decision-dei

Americans RAPIDLY became intolerant of Wokie-ism and DEI.
Bud Light was the launching point for this but the
attitude has become prevasive. Even Cal dumped high Wokie
officials and implemented law-n-order amendments.

A traditionally All-American "macho" corp like HD stabbed
itself in the back by going Wokie.

[YTC#1]

Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson  (HOG)  is attempting to
extinguish the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers
began focusing on the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.
Outrage against the company erupted in late July after Robby Starbuck,
a former Republican candidate for Tennessee's 5th Congressional
District in 2022, took to social media platform X to “expose” Harley-
Davidson for going “totally woke.”
but recently on CEO Jochen Zeitz’s watch, they’ve gone totally woke,”
wrote Starbuck in a tweet on July 23.
He revealed that Harley-Davidson has a “total commitment” to
diversity, equity and inclusion, and supports a number of LGBTQ-based
policies, events and training for its employees. He also claimed that
the company’s CEO, Jochen Zeitz, signed the CEO Action for Diversity &
Inclusion Pledge, and that Harley-Davidson is “openly working to have
less White suppliers, dealers and employees.”
“I don’t think the values at corporate reflect the values of nearly
any Harley Davidson bikers,” said Starbuck in the tweet. “Do Harley
riders want the money they spend at Harley to be used later by
corporate to push an ideology that’s diametrically opposed to their
own values?”
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even
claimed that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.
After catching heat over its policies, Harley-Davidson finally
responded to the backlash in a statement on X on Aug. 19.
“We are saddened by the negativity on social media over the last few
weeks, designed to divide the Harley-Davidson community,” said the
company in the statement. “As a Company, we take this issue very
seriously, and it is our responsibility to respond with clarity,
action and facts.”
The company also refuted allegations that it supports DEI initiatives
as it claims that it axed its “DEI function” months ago.
“It is critical to our business that we hire and retain the best
talent and that all employees feel welcome,” said Harley-Davidson.
“That said, we have not operated a DEI function since April 2024, and
we do not have a DEI function today. We do not have hiring quotas and
we no longer have supplier diversity spend goals.”
Going forward, Harley-Davidson said that it will ensure that its
business resource groups “exclusively focus on professional
development, networking, and mentoring.” Sponsorships and affiliations
will also be under “review” and will only be approved and managed by
the company or its foundation. Employee training will also undergo a
major adjustment.
“Training provided will be related to the needs of the business and be
absent of socially motivated content - only legally required training
has even been mandatory at Harley-Davidson,” said the company in the
statement.
Harley-Davidson did not immediately respond to TheStreet’s request for comment.
Companies are starting to shy away from DEI
The move from Harley-Davidson comes after farm supply company John
Deere also cut its DEI policies in July after it was exposed by
Starbuck for its supposed corporate beliefs. Tractor Supply also made
the same decision last month, avoiding a boycott, after outrage
erupted over its “woke” policies.
Microsoft even decided to lay off its DEI team last month after it
faced controversy over its DEI goals in February.
Many companies have been making cuts to their DEI policies due to
fears of facing backlash. According to a recent analysis from
Bloomberg, more than two dozen public companies mentioned DEI as a
risk factor in their securities filings. They cited that DEI can cause
legal and reputation harm if they take on too little or too much
action on diversity, especially after the U.S. Supreme Court ended
affirmative action in college admissions in June 2023.
https://www.thestreet.com/retail/harley-davidson-decision-dei

  Some Americans RAPIDLY became intolerant of Wokie-ism and DEI.

Fixed that for you.

  Bud Light was the launching point for this but the
  attitude has become prevasive. Even Cal dumped high Wokie
  officials and implemented law-n-order amendments.
  A traditionally All-American "macho" corp like HD stabbed
  itself in the back by going Wokie.

Not sure what the issue is, Han always thought Chewie was loyal and cuddly.

[[e-mail]]

Post by YTC#1

Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson  (HOG)  is attempting to
extinguish the fire of “woke” backlash after a group of its consumers
began focusing on the company’s supposed policies and beliefs.
Outrage against the company erupted in late July after Robby
Starbuck, a former Republican candidate for Tennessee's 5th
Congressional District in 2022, took to social media platform X to
“expose” Harley- Davidson for going “totally woke.”
but recently on CEO Jochen Zeitz’s watch, they’ve gone totally woke,”
wrote Starbuck in a tweet on July 23.
He revealed that Harley-Davidson has a “total commitment” to
diversity, equity and inclusion, and supports a number of LGBTQ-based
policies, events and training for its employees. He also claimed that
the company’s CEO, Jochen Zeitz, signed the CEO Action for Diversity
& Inclusion Pledge, and that Harley-Davidson is “openly working to
have less White suppliers, dealers and employees.”
“I don’t think the values at corporate reflect the values of nearly
any Harley Davidson bikers,” said Starbuck in the tweet. “Do Harley
riders want the money they spend at Harley to be used later by
corporate to push an ideology that’s diametrically opposed to their
own values?”
Many users on X were outraged at Starbuck’s findings, and some even
claimed that they were boycotting the company over its beliefs.
After catching heat over its policies, Harley-Davidson finally
responded to the backlash in a statement on X on Aug. 19.
“We are saddened by the negativity on social media over the last few
weeks, designed to divide the Harley-Davidson community,” said the
company in the statement. “As a Company, we take this issue very
seriously, and it is our responsibility to respond with clarity,
action and facts.”
The company also refuted allegations that it supports DEI initiatives
as it claims that it axed its “DEI function” months ago.
“It is critical to our business that we hire and retain the best
talent and that all employees feel welcome,” said Harley-Davidson.
“That said, we have not operated a DEI function since April 2024, and
we do not have a DEI function today. We do not have hiring quotas and
we no longer have supplier diversity spend goals.”
Going forward, Harley-Davidson said that it will ensure that its
business resource groups “exclusively focus on professional
development, networking, and mentoring.” Sponsorships and
affiliations will also be under “review” and will only be approved
and managed by the company or its foundation. Employee training will
also undergo a major adjustment.
“Training provided will be related to the needs of the business and
be absent of socially motivated content - only legally required
training has even been mandatory at Harley-Davidson,” said the
company in the statement.
Harley-Davidson did not immediately respond to TheStreet’s request for comment.
Companies are starting to shy away from DEI
The move from Harley-Davidson comes after farm supply company John
Deere also cut its DEI policies in July after it was exposed by
Starbuck for its supposed corporate beliefs. Tractor Supply also made
the same decision last month, avoiding a boycott, after outrage
erupted over its “woke” policies.
Microsoft even decided to lay off its DEI team last month after it
faced controversy over its DEI goals in February.
Many companies have been making cuts to their DEI policies due to
fears of facing backlash. According to a recent analysis from
Bloomberg, more than two dozen public companies mentioned DEI as a
risk factor in their securities filings. They cited that DEI can
cause legal and reputation harm if they take on too little or too
much action on diversity, especially after the U.S. Supreme Court
ended affirmative action in college admissions in June 2023.
https://www.thestreet.com/retail/harley-davidson-decision-dei

   Some Americans RAPIDLY became intolerant of Wokie-ism and DEI.

Fixed that for you.

VERY rapidly became ....

Post by YTC#1

   Bud Light was the launching point for this but the
   attitude has become pervasive. Even Cal dumped high Wokie
   officials and implemented law-n-order amendments.
   A traditionally All-American "macho" corp like HD stabbed
   itself in the back by going Wokie.

Not sure what the issue is, Han always thought Chewie was loyal and cuddly.

Nah ... he was bangin' the princess behind Han's back :-)

[PipL]

  Bud Light was the launching point for this but the
  attitude has become prevasive. Even Cal dumped high Wokie
  officials and implemented law-n-order amendments.
  A traditionally All-American "macho" corp like HD stabbed
  itself in the back by going Wokie.

As far as I can tell, "Woke" is a derogatory term for those who believe
in equal opportunities for all. Isn't the fact that anyone can make in
in the States part and parcel of the Great American Dream?

Oh, and MAGA aka "Make America Great Again" is itself the biggest lie
ever: in some ways, America never stopped being great. It does seem to
enjoy shitting on its poorer inhabitants though, but I think it always
has to some extent.

[Lou Bricano]

   Bud Light was the launching point for this but the
   attitude has become prevasive. Even Cal dumped high Wokie
   officials and implemented law-n-order amendments.
   A traditionally All-American "macho" corp like HD stabbed
   itself in the back by going Wokie.

As far as I can tell, "Woke" is a derogatory term for those who believe in equal
opportunities for all.

That is *exactly* all it is. Racist Nazis like ***@ud0s4.net can't argue
against the facts that racism is still pervasive in American society, so instead
of even trying, which they know will be a failure, they just sneer at and deride
those who know the truth.

Isn't the fact that anyone can make in in the States part and parcel of the Great American Dream?

MAGAs know full well that there is *not* equality of opportunity, and they like
it that way.

Oh, and MAGA aka "Make America Great Again" is itself the biggest lie ever: in
some ways, America never stopped being great. It does seem to enjoy shitting on
its poorer inhabitants though, but I think it always has to some extent.

[[e-mail]]

Post by PipL

   Bud Light was the launching point for this but the
   attitude has become pervasive. Even Cal dumped high Wokie
   officials and implemented law-n-order amendments.
   A traditionally All-American "macho" corp like HD stabbed
   itself in the back by going Wokie.

As far as I can tell, "Woke" is a derogatory term for those who believe
in equal opportunities for all. Isn't the fact that anyone can make in
in the States part and parcel of the Great American Dream?

The Woke INVENTED the term ... thought it made them sound
SO much more enlightened and superior than anyone else.

And the #1 problem wasn't equal rights, but UN-equal rights.
All their favorite little weirdo groups were suddenly claimed
to be 'more equal', more deserving, should always be in charge
of everyone and everything and don't you DARE critique yer
new gods ! The 'DEI' end was even worse, horrifically racist
and outright dangerous.

Post by PipL
Oh, and MAGA aka "Make America Great Again" is itself the biggest lie
ever: in some ways, America never stopped being great. It does seem to
enjoy shitting on its poorer inhabitants though, but I think it always
has to some extent.

Make America GreatER Again ... ask Xi if that sounds better.

Hey, ya can always get greater !

[Prudential]

Racists, homophobes, and MAGAs RAPIDLY became intolerant of Wokie-ism and DEI.

[[e-mail]]

Racists, homophobes, and MAGAs RAPIDLY became intolerant of Wokie-ism and DEI.

So far Trump's cabinet has a bunch of women, at least
one 'black' guy, Marco for Sos plus Ramaswamy is in
the mix too.

So, you were saying ... ?

By the way, "DEI" is inherently ultra-racist, the
Wokie-Com version of Jim Crow.

[Charlie Glock]

Post by ***@ud0s4.net

Racists, homophobes, and MAGAs RAPIDLY became intolerant of Wokie-ism and DEI.

So far Trump's cabinet has a bunch of women, at least
one 'black' guy, Marco for Sos plus Ramaswamy is in
the mix too.
So, you were saying ... ?
By the way, "DEI" is inherently ultra-racist, the
Wokie-Com version of Jim Crow.

DEI is the new version of affirmative action circa 1960's and 70's.
It was a miserable failure because hiring people or addmitting them to college
by favoring race did not work and just ended up taking up a position that someone
qualified could have had.
DEI is on steroids compared to affirmative action however.
If I'm stuck on the 5th floor of a building on fire the last thing I need is some 5'3"
fire woman trying to extract my 205 lb 6.2 carcass out of the building.

And when I need to have surgery I don't want some doctor who was passed through medical
school based upon race rather than intelligence and the ability to do the work.
And don't kid yourself that is happening today.

[[e-mail]]

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by ***@ud0s4.net

Racists, homophobes, and MAGAs RAPIDLY became intolerant of Wokie-ism and DEI.

So far Trump's cabinet has a bunch of women, at least
one 'black' guy, Marco for Sos plus Ramaswamy is in
the mix too.
So, you were saying ... ?
By the way, "DEI" is inherently ultra-racist, the
Wokie-Com version of Jim Crow.

DEI is the new version of affirmative action circa 1960's and 70's.
It was a miserable failure because hiring people or addmitting them to college
by favoring race did not work and just ended up taking up a position that someone
qualified could have had.
DEI is on steroids compared to affirmative action however.
If I'm stuck on the 5th floor of a building on fire the last thing I need is some 5'3"
fire woman trying to extract my 205 lb 6.2 carcass out of the building.

SOME women are perfectly capable of whatever jobs. The
idea is to NOT institutionally thwart their careers.

However, esp for very physical jobs, a majority of
women are just NOT gonna be top rate. They may WANT
to be, but what is, is. Nature dealt them a different
hand, so to speak. Same standard goes for shrimpy
little guys.

But don't stand in the way of that 6'2" viking princess
who wants to be in the fire service - Inga will squash
you in more ways than one.

Post by Charlie Glock
And when I need to have surgery I don't want some doctor who was passed through medical
school based upon race rather than intelligence and the ability to do the work.
And don't kid yourself that is happening today.

Yea, I know. If I need a doc these days I pick
an OLD doc. Standards went WAY too far down over
the past decade. You'd be better off with an
import from China, Korea or Pakistan than
anything recently Made In USA.

ANYway ... Harley is TRYING to undo it's Wokie sins,
but it may be too late. The brand will forever be
contaminated. Dunno how things are over at Indian/
Polaris ... but it MAY wind up as the only real
American(-ish) brand left (better bikes too).

Oh well, Triumph ain't awful - I think they still
sell the Rocket-3 which is a very strong machine
(with a surprisingly low CG despite the apparent
bulk) and the various Bonneville variants are
olde-tyme classics.

[petrolcan]

In article <67355f59$1$2873014

Post by Charlie Glock
If I'm stuck on the 5th floor of a building on fire the last thing I need is some 5'3"
fire woman trying to extract my 205 lb 6.2 carcass out of the building.

Surely you'd just shoot at the fire with your manly guns?

[YTC#1]

  Racists, homophobes, and MAGAs RAPIDLY became intolerant of Wokie-
ism and DEI.

  So far Trump's cabinet has a bunch of women, at least
  one 'black' guy, Marco for Sos plus Ramaswamy is in
  the mix too.

The colour of your skin does not define your ability to be a racist or
homophobic.
Your gender does not define your ability to be homophobic or racist.

  So, you were saying ... ?
  By the way, "DEI" is inherently ultra-racist, the
  Wokie-Com version of Jim Crow.

When some one infantilises a word, you start to understand why they
think something that pushes against racism and sexism is racist/sexist.

[[e-mail]]

Post by YTC#1

  Racists, homophobes, and MAGAs RAPIDLY became intolerant of Wokie-
ism and DEI.

   So far Trump's cabinet has a bunch of women, at least
   one 'black' guy, Marco for Sos plus Ramaswamy is in
   the mix too.

The colour of your skin does not define your ability to be a racist or
homophobic.
Your gender does not define your ability to be homophobic or racist.

Clearly, -ist ........

[Heinz]

Post by Bagless K. Sherman
Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson (HOG) is attempting to
extinguish the fire of ƒ owokeƒ backlash after a group of its consumers
began focusing on the companyƒ Ts supposed policies and beliefs.

Only Queers and Kiddy Diddlers ride Harley's any more.

Anybody caught on a Harley is probably a convicted pedophile.


Harley's need to be banned, even burned.